John Addams/Adams & English Chubb/Chub FamilyPerhaps a place to start is to present a simple line pedigree so it can be easily seen just who it is that is being spoken of and how the relate.
John Adams/Addams = English Chubb/Chub
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m 20 June 1698 |
St Clether |
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English Addam/Addams Mary Adams John Adams
cb 24 Jul 1702 cb 8 --- 1704 cb 28 Apr 1710
Laneast Laneast Laneast
m 28/29 Jun 1730/1/2 m 27 Mar 1733 m 14 May 1739
Laneast/St Clether Laneast Tremaine
= John Wheeler = George Hocking = Joan Hill
(Cousin Family 1) (Cousin Family 2) m 7 Apr 1752
Laneast
= Sarah Bath
(My Family)
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About 1699/1700 parish records are seeming to come to their
end or to where they are quite old and hard to read. And speaking, and writing, and
reading are all related, particularly in the case of our oldest known Adams related
cousins. And perhaps it helps to know and understand Elmer Fudd and what makes him say,
"Wascally wabbit!" For some it is not being able to twist the tongue just so to make the
'hard', 'clear', and 'distinct' letter sounds like 'w' vs 'r' or 't' vs 'l'. And perhaps
it become local acsent based. Or perhaps it is in the hearing, that is not hearing well,
clearly or hearing sounds slurred together. Or it could be just poor writing and spelling
skills. Whatever it is, I believe that the marriage record of Enlist/English Adams/Addams
seems to have evolved into three editions as follows:)
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Whatever it is, it is enough to drive genealogists Bodmin. It is true that the older manners of forming numbers and the often crowded why the original parish records were kept, makes it difficult to decipher the numbers and in what order the years follow. And one decades manner of spelling a surname compared to another can often change. If you want a good sample of such 'differnces' just have a Yankee stranger attempt to speak and read the various names about Cornwall itself. Like 'Tintagle' or 'Luanceston' and that just a couple of the easier ones. Now as to the name of Whetter and Wheeler, when one attempts to find any named or called Whetter in the area at this time frame, whether baptisms, deaths or even other marriages, there just aren't any Whetters. What there are is Wheelers and they all fit with English as mother and John as father and the dates which fit. So I have to surmised that our older Adams cousins of great...anut English Adams are named Wheeler. And where did the name St. Clether come from set in the place of Laneast? Bodmin of course. So you can see where the Wheeler family lived in relation to Lanest the map is here presented. Look for number 5 Treneglos as that is where they lived after the wedding. Well, along with John Adams' sister English who married John Wheeler, there was also his sister Mary. And Mary also married and had a family. She married George Hocking and their family began with a set of twin sisters. Anyway, how I fit these older cousins of ours together is as follows in the simple pedigree forms: |
 9 Egloskerry 12 Altarnun 13 Laneast 14 Trewen 18 Lewannick |
John Wheeler/Wheler/Wheeter = English Addams/Adams
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m 28/9 Jun 1730/1/2 |
Laneast/St Clether |
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John Wheeler Elizabeth Wheeler Richard Wheeler Joan Wheeler March Wheeler Thomas Wheeler
cb 6 Sep 1733 cb 12 Nov 1735 cb 30 Nov 1737 cb 18 Aug 1740 cb 24 Mar 1744 cb 15 May 1748
Treneglos Treneglos Treneglos Treneglos Treneglos Treneglos
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George Hocking = Mary Addams
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m 27 Mar 1733 |
Laneast |
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English Hocking* Mary Hocking* John Hocking George Hocking Mary Hocking
cb 23 Apr 1734 cb 23 Apr 1734 cb 2 Dec 1735 cb 18 Jan 1738 cb 20 Feb 1742
Laneast Laneast Laneast Laneast Laneast
d 4 May 1734 d 25 Apr 1734
Laneast Laneast
(Infant) (Infant)
* Because of the marriage date of March 1733 and these subsequent baptism dates of April
1734, these sisters must be twin sisters. I don't know the exact statistics, but I have to
imagine that the processes of pushing to get 'infants' baptized/christened' at such an
early age has contributed to infant mortality, exposing them to such things that they
otherwise would not have had to be exposed to. The twins died.
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